03 20 07 Lindsay and Roy in conversation

Lindsay:  You there?
Roy: Yup!
Lindsay:  Hiya. How are things on your end?
Roy: Winding up a long nite but in a reasonably good mood.  Oh, di'th just sent out an Update.
Lindsay:  Mhm. I'm good, just reorganized how I'm going to do my comics from now on. Just, the emphasis on them. Since one is a story-comic, it makes sense to put it up in, well, stories. Draw a whole bunch of them and put them up at once. The other is a daily update, so I should put my focus on that for regular updates of quality. Thus, how I've organized it.
Roy:  Excellent,must give you a clearer vision of what you're working on/toward.
Lindsay:  Well, yes. I'm seeing a pattern...my daily update comic is getting more recognition, and is more "fun" for me to do. So, I'm going to focus on that, but keep my other project alive with big updates that people can read through all at once.
Roy:  Yee-hah! Go girl go!  Cool!  We have an announcement here.  First part of that Update di'th sent out.  As of today there are two Outlands Communities -
Lindsay:  Yup, caught that.
Roy:  - OC USA and OC UK / EU.  Aww shucks, Linds! With my three days off I'm gonna attempt to write something about channeling, my latest views and all.  And put it on Helium.
Lindsay:  Ooh, neat!  I'm sure it'll get rated as valuable. I wonder if there's an article already open on the topic? If not, you'll have to wait for the article to be approved...
Roy:  That's cool.  I need to update the website material anyway, so if they accept it, fine, if not, fine as well. It's like telling a story to a few friends - one interrupts out of the blue.  If after the interruption the others ask you to continue you know you were telling a good story!  If not, oh well...
Lindsay:  Yeah, typically.  I have ta still learn "good storytelling".
Roy: Ah, between your comics and you're chatting with me and your very thoughtful comments in Group and at DA, I think you're pretty damn god!
Lindsay: Pretty damn god, huh?  Yes, I suppose I AM a pretty damn God. *pose*
Roy:  Rei Scutt was really tired the other day and she for some reason wrote "God is like good with a lack of like o's"
Lindsay:  Yeah, well...
Roy:  Say!  If you're God, where did I put my car keys on August 4, 1977?  Never did find them!
Lindsay:  I didn't say THE God, I said A God.
Roy:Oh God,  I get so consufed!
Lindsay:  But I digress: It slipped behind the counter when you grabbed your coat.
Roy:  The trench coat, yes!  That's the night I had a little fun with the neighbors!  Poor Mrs. Szazhkowalksi, 90 years old and almost had a heart attack after chasing me for ten blocks.
Lindsay:  You punk!  My only "rebelliousness" in my life has been my change of religions, but that's only because it really was important to me.
Roy:  You have a clearer focus than I then.  Your change was necessary and foreseen, a sort of spiritual coup d'etat.  Peaceful change of regimes in a limited way, although I know it caused some friction.  I recall a good deal of it.
Lindsay:  Well, it was..... I'm pretty sure I've described it before. It was both planned as well as unexpected. *sigh* Friction indeed. And there's ongoing small stuff. It's frustrating when people ask me about what I believe, and when they point out how "scientifically unlikely" it is, they smirk as though saying, "see? You're just silly!" Because science is everything, and anything that science explains can't also possibly be something truly magical.
Roy:  Generally, here you speak of people who consciously or not have a rationalist/materialist view of life?  Or well-meaning Christians who don't see the ludicrous side of their faith?
Lindsay:  The former.  I deal with those more often than the zealots.  Even so, the Christians "Have a Book". My faith has no such thing.
amanitagemini says:
An apocryphal saying of St. Paul (of all people) goes, "Their book is written in their hearts."  About pagans of the day. Pity no-one bothered to remember it.

Lindsay:  Well, ain't that nice. I don't mean that sarcastically, that's really a good way of putting it.  But the things I believe in, apparently don't make sense to people.  I got into an argument with someone about reincarnation. They insisted that heaven and hell existed...All because, the world needed someplace to punish people who'd done something evil.  I said, "Wait, they need to be punished for ALL OF ETERNITY, just because they messed up in one, so very short lifetime?"  [he replied]"Yeah, don't you think someone deserves to be punished for killing someone else? Or mass murder?" To which I replied, "Of course I do. But not an ETERNITY of suffering."
Roy:  The evil suffer beyond measure in this life.  Their only escape is to turn around, go the other way.  I know.  I was evil incarnate.
Lindsay:  There was a ton of debate back and forth about it. He didn't understand the concept of ETERNITY. I know he didn't. It's because he seperates himself from what he considers "Evil", so he has no problem condemning it.  That's what people do. They seperate from darkness, from evil, from being lost. They refuse to admit they have the same capacity for evil, and have no problem condemning those who get lost in the darkness.  And that condemnation leads to a fear, because we internally DO feel that darkness, and fear ourselves being pulled to it or being punished the same way we feel those who've been obviously evil should be punished...it's terrible.  All these years of being taught that Light is Good and Darkness is Evil has brainwashed people into fearing a whole part of themselves.
Roy:  We live and have our being in the Dark, from it we come and whence go we; and every time we dream, we are home, we are there.  We are that Light in the Darkness, we are a fount of being and doing to the darkness, as it is to us.
Lindsay:  Well, we ARE in darkness, we just don't know it.  We identify with light because it's what we are made of. What SEPERATES us is the darkness.  As we are seperated by darkness, we refuse to see when someone else is made of the same light we are if they do things that are misguided, or evil.  And my friend was insisting that people who do evil things shouldn't GET a second chance at life. I explained,"But their punishment IS life!" But he still didn't buy it.
Roy:  And by the way that I feel and think,  is as guilty as hell of one heinous sin: chosen ignorance. There comes a time when you're a little kid and you get dragged to church week after week and you suddenly say, "Something is WRONG here."  Most people seem to ignore that early warning.
Lindsay:  Well, it had nothing to do with church, for this guy.  He just doesn't like to think of people as going unpunished for "crimes". Right. He didn't ask, and I'm sure he doesn't want to think of it, if maybe he was in a wheelchair because of something truly evil he did in a previous life. I can't imagine it's easy to live life in a wheelchair. I wonder if he'd consider that his punishment, or if he thinks it's just an unfair part of his life? and thus, another part of today's culture: If we only get one go around, why do children, who've done nothing wrong, die?  Why do good people have bad things happen to them? Life's like that; it teaches you lessons.
Roy:  If I've learned one thing since the founding of Outlands, the questions are important but unanswerable by the usual alternatives: atheism, which says there is no sense to why evil? and the standard Judeo-Christian model, which is mumbo-jumbo to me - vis the book of Job.  A guy like you've described would be perfectly happy with an religious authority who told him what to do and when to do it. Even if he's not the least "religious," that kind of personality settles for pat answers.
Lindsay:  Nah, he just is trying to settle for himself the universe. That's okay...he has to walk (or wheel) his own path.
Roy:  Yeah, we're all on the road.  I just wish some of the other pilgrims wouldn't keep bumping into me and knocking me down.
Lindsay:  I just wish I wouldn't have to defend my beliefs all the time.  If I were christian, I wouldn't have to back up why I believe what I do. I could just point to the book. But without a book, I need to justify that I believe in what i do, and all my "justifications",of course, fall short, becaues they're not taking my answers seriously to begin with.
Roy:  With some people (like that guy) you know you're wasting your breath, yet the part of us that KNOWS our vision is right seems bent on trying to make the damned fool see.  It's so simple.  So simple the guy should say, "Holy Shit, you're right!"
Lindsay: But the world is complicated, so a simple answer shouldn't be able to cover it all.  Saying,"God really IS everyone's god, "he" just appears differently to different people" isn't enough. See, that means having to be truly tolerant of other people's beliefs, and too many people want to feel better about themselves to stop putting someone else down...  Answering, "Why does all the pain happen in the world?" with "So we can learn from it" doesn't work.
Roy:The only thing I've learned from pain is that it hurts.  For the longest time I have had an especial intolerance for Islam, chiefly because of its patriarchal/sexist base.  Yet I have lived with, worked with and hung out with Islamic neighbors and co-workers, and I see how Islam has molded them into really decent people.
Lindsay: You don't think that pain has taught you to appreciate happiness when you have it?
Roy:  I have thought of it in those terms, but up until two years ago I could not foresee the next moment, happiness and pain were transient experiences in the NOW.   Learning otherwise has been hard!
Lindsay: I mean, I know from my own experience what pain can teach you about yourself, even. When I broke my foot, I started off doing nothing but crying: Not because of the pain, no, that was gone in a day or two. No, it was the idea of having to be So. HELPless. That made me cry. And then, I told myself each day, "Just get through today, and you'll make it." The whole 10 weeks that I had a cast on my foot was spent telling myself I could do it, and reminding myself that if I can get through "this", I can get through other things, too. It also taught me how I can heal myself, and focus.  I came out of the painful experience with a foot that was just as good as the day before I broke it, thanks to lucky healing, and an understanding that I'm stronger than I think I am. *shrug*And it also helped teach me that pain is the forge through which our soul passes.
Roy:  This is what I really like about being steward: I just learned from you!  Thank you, Lindsay, I really never have viewed pain that way.
Lindsay:  I've been lucky,really. Strange, most people wouldn't call breaking their foot lucky.
Roy:  But I can relate!  When I tore my arm up in 2005 we got the Community going online and I could play as much as I wanted at DA!
Lindsay:  But other things. Peers mocking me for my weight, feeling ostracized almost my whole life, taught me to identify and empathize with others who've been through the same. Social experiences have shown me the best and the worst in people.  And SEEING the best and worst in people just shows me how we ARE like children lost in the darkness. We're scared, lonely, want "Mama/Papa"to rescue us. Without being on the outside, I wouldn't have seen it; I'd have been swept along with it. And knowing what it is that seperates us, I can calm myself down more easily than get angry.  I still get angry. I just handle it better than I used to......Interesting...... Something that occured to me, I think I've been cloning your energy while I talk to you. I don't get this philisophical in normal conversation,not ALWAYS; I do occasionally.  I'm weird in that way.  I do that with other people, depending on their mindset, I'll start talking to them like they talk to me.
Roy: You read the Learn Telepathy Quickly ad?  You learned the lesson some time before the ad, though!  I really think it has something to do with the IM.
Lindsay:  Oh, definately IMs.  Someone I talk to, who generates a ton of psychic energy(I dunno how else to term it), often gets me inspired with a ton of energy, too.
Roy:  Umm, put your knuckles on the IM screen for about thirty seconds.
Lindsay:  Okay...
Roy:  Fine.  That was me.  I definitely felt your energy, very strong and clear. Pure, innocent.
Lindsay:  I have the tendency to project my "tendrils" very long distance. According to my friend, this isn't a talent that everyone has.
Roy: Then you should be teaching it!
Lindsay: I don't know HOW!  I just do it without realizing it.
Roy:  Hmm, teaching it......I think just having a conversation like this would educate someone more profoundly than any words or method might describe. You showed me something here.  You project. I absorb.
Lindsay: Ohhh, that's interesting. I project, but, actually, I can gather information pretty well, too. It's a lot better/easier face to face, when I can look right in someone's eyes, but even online I can get a decent "idea" of someone. Hence how I can "clone" people.
Roy:  Right.  If I did not in some manner myself project, we wouldn't be having this conversation.  Likewise would you be said to absorb; I wonder if it is a matter of focus on some primal level?  Our DNA and astrological sign would contribute their share of influence upon us to determine "absorber" or "projector."
Lindsay:  I haven't put a ton of study into it, not really.
Roy: You as a projector would be primarily aware of your projecting. We're studying right now!
Lindsay:  Ironically, that's not the case. I'm not a projector primarily. It's a secondary skill I developed through being on the internet. My primary "skill" is actually empathy, or "absorption". I'm just used to tuning it out by now. (for the most part)  Hence, why I didn't catch that you were sending anything.
Roy:  Mmm.  Yet empathy was a learning process for me.  And always the next time.  One thing I've learned as a channeler is that some are verbal (me) and others go by emotional sensations (Anwarii, Dori Hartley to some extent).
Lindsay:  Oh, I'm...emotional.
Roy:  To me it applies to telepathic contact in its various forms.  In many ways empathy is the basis for what we broadly call telepathy.
Lindsay:  Well, like I said, in person it's stronger. Everyone emits energy, including their "emotional wavelength". Since most people aren't even aware of it, it's uncontrolled emissions. So, imagine when I awoke to the fact that it was not always ME that was getting upset,realizing that sometimes I need to ask the people around me what's going on with them to figure out what's going on with me.  Other people angry, or general tension, gives me a big headache. I tell ya, what burns out the sensor are crowds.
Roy: That's empathic, alright.  My youngest son's mom was like that, it was like she was on E 24/7.
Lindsay:  Well, I have weird "conditions" around other people. I can't sit between two people, I have to have at least one side "open". I don't like people touching me, or hugging me too long.  But, what really pisses off my peers sometimes is when I look them straight in the eye and tell them to cut out the bullshit, just admit that they're trying to act superior to hide their insecurities.  Or when someone accuses me of "Just not understanding their pain".
Roy: I know you better than I thought, then!  At 53 she still has not learned to shift focus or ignore/overide the emotional wave. My experience with those who've told me that do not know what they're talking about. To loop back a moment, as far as my having learned from pain, yes, now that I think of it - pain is transient and not all of life.
Lindsay:  And on that note, I'm afraid I need to cut off the conversation. I need to shower, dress, and get ready for my day. For which I almost said I needed to get "dready" for...which wouldn't have been too far off.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lindsay:  You there?
Roy: Yup!
Lindsay:  Hiya. How are things on your end?
Roy: Winding up a long nite but in a reasonably good mood.  Oh, di'th just sent out an Update.
Lindsay:  Mhm. I'm good, just reorganized how I'm going to do my comics from now on. Just, the emphasis on them. Since one is a story-comic, it makes sense to put it up in, well, stories. Draw a whole bunch of them and put them up at once. The other is a daily update, so I should put my focus on that for regular updates of quality. Thus, how I've organized it.
Roy:  Excellent,must give you a clearer vision of what you're working on/toward.
Lindsay:  Well, yes. I'm seeing a pattern...my daily update comic is getting more recognition, and is more "fun" for me to do. So, I'm going to focus on that, but keep my other project alive with big updates that people can read through all at once.
Roy:  Yee-hah! Go girl go!  Cool!  We have an announcement here.  First part of that Update di'th sent out.  As of today there are two Outlands Communities -
Lindsay:  Yup, caught that.
Roy:  - OC USA and OC UK / EU.  Aww shucks, Linds! With my three days off I'm gonna attempt to write something about channeling, my latest views and all.  And put it on Helium.
Lindsay:  Ooh, neat!  I'm sure it'll get rated as valuable. I wonder if there's an article already open on the topic? If not, you'll have to wait for the article to be approved...
Roy:  That's cool.  I need to update the website material anyway, so if they accept it, fine, if not, fine as well. It's like telling a story to a few friends - one interrupts out of the blue.  If after the interruption the others ask you to continue you know you were telling a good story!  If not, oh well...
Lindsay:  Yeah, typically.  I have ta still learn "good storytelling".
Roy: Ah, between your comics and you're chatting with me and your very thoughtful comments in Group and at DA, I think you're pretty damn god!
Lindsay: Pretty damn god, huh?  Yes, I suppose I AM a pretty damn God. *pose*
Roy:  Rei Scutt was really tired the other day and she for some reason wrote "God is like good with a lack of like o's"
Lindsay:  Yeah, well...
Roy:  Say!  If you're God, where did I put my car keys on August 4, 1977?  Never did find them!
Lindsay:  I didn't say THE God, I said A God.
Roy:Oh God,  I get so consufed!
Lindsay:  But I digress: It slipped behind the counter when you grabbed your coat.
Roy:  The trench coat, yes!  That's the night I had a little fun with the neighbors!  Poor Mrs. Szazhkowalksi, 90 years old and almost had a heart attack after chasing me for ten blocks.
Lindsay:  You punk!  My only "rebelliousness" in my life has been my change of religions, but that's only because it really was important to me.
Roy:  You have a clearer focus than I then.  Your change was necessary and foreseen, a sort of spiritual coup d'etat.  Peaceful change of regimes in a limited way, although I know it caused some friction.  I recall a good deal of it.
Lindsay:  Well, it was..... I'm pretty sure I've described it before. It was both planned as well as unexpected. *sigh* Friction indeed. And there's ongoing small stuff. It's frustrating when people ask me about what I believe, and when they point out how "scientifically unlikely" it is, they smirk as though saying, "see? You're just silly!" Because science is everything, and anything that science explains can't also possibly be something truly magical.
Roy:  Generally, here you speak of people who consciously or not have a rationalist/materialist view of life?  Or well-meaning Christians who don't see the ludicrous side of their faith?
Lindsay:  The former.  I deal with those more often than the zealots.  Even so, the Christians "Have a Book". My faith has no such thing.
amanitagemini says:
An apocryphal saying of St. Paul (of all people) goes, "Their book is written in their hearts."  About pagans of the day. Pity no-one bothered to remember it.

Lindsay:  Well, ain't that nice. I don't mean that sarcastically, that's really a good way of putting it.  But the things I believe in, apparently don't make sense to people.  I got into an argument with someone about reincarnation. They insisted that heaven and hell existed...All because, the world needed someplace to punish people who'd done something evil.  I said, "Wait, they need to be punished for ALL OF ETERNITY, just because they messed up in one, so very short lifetime?"  [he replied]"Yeah, don't you think someone deserves to be punished for killing someone else? Or mass murder?" To which I replied, "Of course I do. But not an ETERNITY of suffering."
Roy:  The evil suffer beyond measure in this life.  Their only escape is to turn around, go the other way.  I know.  I was evil incarnate.
Lindsay:  There was a ton of debate back and forth about it. He didn't understand the concept of ETERNITY. I know he didn't. It's because he seperates himself from what he considers "Evil", so he has no problem condemning it.  That's what people do. They seperate from darkness, from evil, from being lost. They refuse to admit they have the same capacity for evil, and have no problem condemning those who get lost in the darkness.  And that condemnation leads to a fear, because we internally DO feel that darkness, and fear ourselves being pulled to it or being punished the same way we feel those who've been obviously evil should be punished...it's terrible.  All these years of being taught that Light is Good and Darkness is Evil has brainwashed people into fearing a whole part of themselves.
Roy:  We live and have our being in the Dark, from it we come and whence go we; and every time we dream, we are home, we are there.  We are that Light in the Darkness, we are a fount of being and doing to the darkness, as it is to us.
Lindsay:  Well, we ARE in darkness, we just don't know it.  We identify with light because it's what we are made of. What SEPERATES us is the darkness.  As we are seperated by darkness, we refuse to see when someone else is made of the same light we are if they do things that are misguided, or evil.  And my friend was insisting that people who do evil things shouldn't GET a second chance at life. I explained,"But their punishment IS life!" But he still didn't buy it.
Roy:  And by the way that I feel and think,  is as guilty as hell of one heinous sin: chosen ignorance. There comes a time when you're a little kid and you get dragged to church week after week and you suddenly say, "Something is WRONG here."  Most people seem to ignore that early warning.
Lindsay:  Well, it had nothing to do with church, for this guy.  He just doesn't like to think of people as going unpunished for "crimes". Right. He didn't ask, and I'm sure he doesn't want to think of it, if maybe he was in a wheelchair because of something truly evil he did in a previous life. I can't imagine it's easy to live life in a wheelchair. I wonder if he'd consider that his punishment, or if he thinks it's just an unfair part of his life? and thus, another part of today's culture: If we only get one go around, why do children, who've done nothing wrong, die?  Why do good people have bad things happen to them? Life's like that; it teaches you lessons.
Roy:  If I've learned one thing since the founding of Outlands, the questions are important but unanswerable by the usual alternatives: atheism, which says there is no sense to why evil? and the standard Judeo-Christian model, which is mumbo-jumbo to me - vis the book of Job.  A guy like you've described would be perfectly happy with an religious authority who told him what to do and when to do it. Even if he's not the least "religious," that kind of personality settles for pat answers.
Lindsay:  Nah, he just is trying to settle for himself the universe. That's okay...he has to walk (or wheel) his own path.
Roy:  Yeah, we're all on the road.  I just wish some of the other pilgrims wouldn't keep bumping into me and knocking me down.
Lindsay:  I just wish I wouldn't have to defend my beliefs all the time.  If I were christian, I wouldn't have to back up why I believe what I do. I could just point to the book. But without a book, I need to justify that I believe in what i do, and all my "justifications",of course, fall short, becaues they're not taking my answers seriously to begin with.
Roy:  With some people (like that guy) you know you're wasting your breath, yet the part of us that KNOWS our vision is right seems bent on trying to make the damned fool see.  It's so simple.  So simple the guy should say, "Holy Shit, you're right!"
Lindsay: But the world is complicated, so a simple answer shouldn't be able to cover it all.  Saying,"God really IS everyone's god, "he" just appears differently to different people" isn't enough. See, that means having to be truly tolerant of other people's beliefs, and too many people want to feel better about themselves to stop putting someone else down...  Answering, "Why does all the pain happen in the world?" with "So we can learn from it" doesn't work.
Roy:The only thing I've learned from pain is that it hurts.  For the longest time I have had an especial intolerance for Islam, chiefly because of its patriarchal/sexist base.  Yet I have lived with, worked with and hung out with Islamic neighbors and co-workers, and I see how Islam has molded them into really decent people.
Lindsay: You don't think that pain has taught you to appreciate happiness when you have it?
Roy:  I have thought of it in those terms, but up until two years ago I could not foresee the next moment, happiness and pain were transient experiences in the NOW.   Learning otherwise has been hard!
Lindsay: I mean, I know from my own experience what pain can teach you about yourself, even. When I broke my foot, I started off doing nothing but crying: Not because of the pain, no, that was gone in a day or two. No, it was the idea of having to be So. HELPless. That made me cry. And then, I told myself each day, "Just get through today, and you'll make it." The whole 10 weeks that I had a cast on my foot was spent telling myself I could do it, and reminding myself that if I can get through "this", I can get through other things, too. It also taught me how I can heal myself, and focus.  I came out of the painful experience with a foot that was just as good as the day before I broke it, thanks to lucky healing, and an understanding that I'm stronger than I think I am. *shrug*And it also helped teach me that pain is the forge through which our soul passes.
Roy:  This is what I really like about being steward: I just learned from you!  Thank you, Lindsay, I really never have viewed pain that way.
Lindsay:  I've been lucky,really. Strange, most people wouldn't call breaking their foot lucky.
Roy:  But I can relate!  When I tore my arm up in 2005 we got the Community going online and I could play as much as I wanted at DA!
Lindsay:  But other things. Peers mocking me for my weight, feeling ostracized almost my whole life, taught me to identify and empathize with others who've been through the same. Social experiences have shown me the best and the worst in people.  And SEEING the best and worst in people just shows me how we ARE like children lost in the darkness. We're scared, lonely, want "Mama/Papa"to rescue us. Without being on the outside, I wouldn't have seen it; I'd have been swept along with it. And knowing what it is that seperates us, I can calm myself down more easily than get angry.  I still get angry. I just handle it better than I used to......Interesting...... Something that occured to me, I think I've been cloning your energy while I talk to you. I don't get this philisophical in normal conversation,not ALWAYS; I do occasionally.  I'm weird in that way.  I do that with other people, depending on their mindset, I'll start talking to them like they talk to me.
Roy: You read the Learn Telepathy Quickly ad?  You learned the lesson some time before the ad, though!  I really think it has something to do with the IM.
Lindsay:  Oh, definately IMs.  Someone I talk to, who generates a ton of psychic energy(I dunno how else to term it), often gets me inspired with a ton of energy, too.
Roy:  Umm, put your knuckles on the IM screen for about thirty seconds.
Lindsay:  Okay...
Roy:  Fine.  That was me.  I definitely felt your energy, very strong and clear. Pure, innocent.
Lindsay:  I have the tendency to project my "tendrils" very long distance. According to my friend, this isn't a talent that everyone has.
Roy: Then you should be teaching it!
Lindsay: I don't know HOW!  I just do it without realizing it.
Roy:  Hmm, teaching it......I think just having a conversation like this would educate someone more profoundly than any words or method might describe. You showed me something here.  You project. I absorb.
Lindsay: Ohhh, that's interesting. I project, but, actually, I can gather information pretty well, too. It's a lot better/easier face to face, when I can look right in someone's eyes, but even online I can get a decent "idea" of someone. Hence how I can "clone" people.
Roy:  Right.  If I did not in some manner myself project, we wouldn't be having this conversation.  Likewise would you be said to absorb; I wonder if it is a matter of focus on some primal level?  Our DNA and astrological sign would contribute their share of influence upon us to determine "absorber" or "projector."
Lindsay:  I haven't put a ton of study into it, not really.
Roy: You as a projector would be primarily aware of your projecting. We're studying right now!
Lindsay:  Ironically, that's not the case. I'm not a projector primarily. It's a secondary skill I developed through being on the internet. My primary "skill" is actually empathy, or "absorption". I'm just used to tuning it out by now. (for the most part)  Hence, why I didn't catch that you were sending anything.
Roy:  Mmm.  Yet empathy was a learning process for me.  And always the next time.  One thing I've learned as a channeler is that some are verbal (me) and others go by emotional sensations (Anwarii, Dori Hartley to some extent).
Lindsay:  Oh, I'm...emotional.
Roy:  To me it applies to telepathic contact in its various forms.  In many ways empathy is the basis for what we broadly call telepathy.
Lindsay:  Well, like I said, in person it's stronger. Everyone emits energy, including their "emotional wavelength". Since most people aren't even aware of it, it's uncontrolled emissions. So, imagine when I awoke to the fact that it was not always ME that was getting upset,realizing that sometimes I need to ask the people around me what's going on with them to figure out what's going on with me.  Other people angry, or general tension, gives me a big headache. I tell ya, what burns out the sensor are crowds.
Roy: That's empathic, alright.  My youngest son's mom was like that, it was like she was on E 24/7.
Lindsay:  Well, I have weird "conditions" around other people. I can't sit between two people, I have to have at least one side "open". I don't like people touching me, or hugging me too long.  But, what really pisses off my peers sometimes is when I look them straight in the eye and tell them to cut out the bullshit, just admit that they're trying to act superior to hide their insecurities.  Or when someone accuses me of "Just not understanding their pain".
Roy: I know you better than I thought, then!  At 53 she still has not learned to shift focus or ignore/overide the emotional wave. My experience with those who've told me that do not know what they're talking about. To loop back a moment, as far as my having learned from pain, yes, now that I think of it - pain is transient and not all of life.
Lindsay:  And on that note, I'm afraid I need to cut off the conversation. I need to shower, dress, and get ready for my day. For which I almost said I needed to get "dready" for...which wouldn't have been too far off.

 

 


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