Outlands Community USA

Website of the Outlands Community USA

Who we are and what we are about

Questions

1. Okay...so what is the Outlands Community?
2. I'm an atheist and I don't believe in any of this 'spiritual' crap. You live, you die, goodbye.
3. But you just said things about "the Deity!"
4. Let me get this straight: you're a large group of individuals?
5. I think this is all a fake!
6. I keep reading references to how a number of you are dead. I'm afraid of death.
7. This is one more Internet cult!
8. Why are you here? Why did you make this website?
9. What do you think of Jesus? The Bible?

Answers

1. Okay...so what is the Outlands Community?
   

   We thought you'd never ask!  We are a loosely-knit yet dedicated group of flesh-and-blood human beings and ethereal entities.  We are in existence to help all entities evolve, and this means spiritual growth.  Whether you believe it or not, whether you know it or not, you are an eternal spiritual being.

2. I'm an atheist and I don't believe in any of this 'spiritual' crap. You live, you die, goodbye.
   

   While we have met a number of people who claim that they really have no sense of a spiritual self, we have met a lot more who refuse to accept the ideas about "God" that are prevalent in much of the world.  While this "God" is nominally declared to be loving, the actions of this mythic being resemble those of a paranoid despot: going to hell is not a loving act, despite what convolutions of logic and common sense that some people exercise in trying to get others to believe in it.  Endowing us with curiosity and then forbiding us to act on it is another less-than-kindly act.  Giving us passionate sexual natures which cross a very broad spectrum of desires and then insisting that we channel these energies into the very narrow sluiceway of heterosexual monogamy, often solely for the purpose of breeding on a planet already full of starving people, is just downright sadistic.  In that sense we are atheists also.

3. But you just said things about "the Deity!"
   

   Yes, and if you read closely you saw that the reference was coupled with the word "they."  You cannot circuscribe or limit the Divine.  One way in which this is done is by declaring that there is "one supreme God."  This sorta kinda leaves out a whole bunch of Goddesses.  The real problem is that spoken and written language cannot properly describe the infinite...although the mathematicians have made good headway into that one.  But math is its own peculiar language and is relatively divorced from linguistics proper; we are working on the language thing, though.

   There are any number of gods and goddeses, and they interact with each other and with the rest of the universes.  And they are not interested in sending people to hell, or making them suffer.  They are evolving, as we are.  Mind you, we are not at all Mormons (Latter Day Saints), but they hit the nail on the head when it was declared that "as we are, God once was; as God is now we someday shall be." By the way, if any LDS memebr reads this and feels we've misquoted, we's like to beg off until we correct it - we're going by memory right now!

4. Let me get this straight: you're a large group of individuals?
   

   Yes we are.  We've heard the question quite regularly, but usually the person asking has meta-questions or sub-questions about how much of our individual personalities shine through the brain of our channeler, Roy.  Those of you who are fairly sharp will notice that we use a pair of hyphens - like this - to parenthesize a statement within a sentence, rather then put the words in parentheses (like this).  This is an old writing habit of Roy's and it is easier to just use well-worn paths in his neural centers than to disturb the flow of words coming through by insisting that parentheses be used, or a separate sentence be created altogether.

   Anyone who channels is familiar with this situation.  If you read Jane Robert's Seth books, you'll quickly notice that Seth has a number of "Sethisms" that pop up regularly in the books; "a hearty good evening to you both" is one that comes to mind.  At the same time, Ms. roberts often commented that much of the writing contains elements of her thought-patterns and writing style.

   You will notice some of us have distinctive ways with words, of that you can be sure.  Irlene Davis comes from Mobile, Alabama and writes pretty much the way she talks, in a delightful Southern belle drawl; she's been working on that, but her blog-pages are just full of what I'm talking about.  Ifn y'all don't like a Southern drawl, ah s'pose it'll be all annoyin, but we love it.  Two more with distinctive writing styles are Stavros Mionyi Daghlisz - known among us as Stro Moon Daglo - and Iehanne d'Domremy d'Arc. 

5. I think this is all a fake!
   

   Be our guest!  There are plenty of other objections:

   1. Your channeler plainly says he's been using mind-altering chemicals for over forty years.  Seems to me that at some point he went over the edge somewhere.
   2. The Bible says that he's under the influence of demons.
   3. There is no evidence anywhere that channeling is a genuine phenomenon.
   4. People who hear voices are mentally ill.  Schizophrenic, psychotic, some combination thereof.

   Okay, let's get going on these.  For many people these are valid objections and we wish to provide some sort of answer; any answers we give will tend to raise more questions and more doubts.  However there will be some for whom no answer will be sufficient.  These we cannot answer.

   1. This is Roy writing at the moment and I wish to answer this one personally.  People fry from using psychedelics by being stupid with them.  They drive cars, go to clubs and parties, they hang out with people whose lives and vibes are plainly negative in some way; they put themselves in the path of danger by going to high-crime areas, where they are subject to interference by thugs and police alike.  Many years ago, Tim wore himself out by saying over and over again, set and setting are everything. They are. Being with good people in safe surroundings with no other obligations than having to go to the bathroom, or keeping sufficiently hydrated, are absolutely paramount.  I've done my share of stupid over the years, but have never forgotten these simple instructions.  And I am not advocating the illegal use of psychedelic  preparations of any kind.  Here in the United States you may possess any number of herbal psychedelics, but you may not legally use them; most jurisdictions are quite clear about that.  You may not be happy about the laws governing these things, but you can work to change them and think long and hard about breaking our country's laws.  The penalties for some things in some parts of the country are extremely harsh.  This is a word to the wiseguy, and I will add one other thing:  in many ways my ability to channel has nothing to do with the umm voyages I've made.
   2. We do not hold the Bible or any holy book to be authoritative.  These books are at best myths in narrative form, and many are written simply to uphold the stranglehold that religious authorites have upon millions of people.  We do not callously disregard every line of every holy book; the Bible has "there is no fear in love" and over 2000 injunctions to help the poor.  The al-Qu'ran teaches that "if you involve yourself in their affairs, then they are your kindred."  However, if you hold the Bible to be the absolute authority in spiritual things, consider the following: disobedient children, adulterous wives and gay people are supposed to be stoned to death; if you don't follow through, you're as guilty as they are.  If you eat pork, shellfish, or have sex with your wife for the week before and week after she has her period, you're as guilty of sin as someone who murders people.  We've heard and read some pretty wild explanations about the difference between the Old Testament and the New, and how Christians are not bound by the laws of the Old Testament, but the Epistle of James makes it pretty plain that that is wishful thinking.  The very first Christians called themselves Ebionim, 'the poor,' and were observant of all 613 mizvoth - laws - of the Old testament.  It took Saint Paul, at once the greatest friend and greatest enemy of the early Christians, to change that around.  The very first Christians received their instructions directly from the Deity (our sense of the word) simply because there was no New testament to guide them.  These folks were generally known as 'Gnostics' and were a direct threat to (at first) the hierarchy of the Jerusalem Levitical priesthood and then the emergent Church as it flourished in Rome, Alexandria and Antioch.
   3. Please read Dr. Jon Klimo's Channeling; Brian  Inglis' Trance; and the 19th century classic by psychologist F. W. H. Myers, Human Personality and its Survival of Bodily Death before making so sweeping and ignorant a declaration.  By the way, neither of the first two writers are aware of us, so don't take our mentioning their books as an indication that they endorse us. 
   4. Yes, quite a number are.  Quite a number of them are told to cut and burn themselves for being evil, or to get a gun or bomb and 'do something' to rid the world of 'sinners.'  Many more people who 'hear voices' are incapable of leaving the house, or holding a job, or parenting, or driving a car, at least without a lot of heavy psychiatric medication.  We don't have any of that around here.  It took a while, but quite a number of us got Roy to do something about his rage problems, to stop being a petty thug, to be honest and charitable, to seek help for his depression and the like.  You should be so mentally ill.

   this section of the FAQ compiled by Sara Jane van Beeuwelan( 3 & 4 ), Michael Archontas (2) and Roy (1)

6. I keep reading references to how a number of you are dead. I'm afraid of death.
   

   Most people are.  Most people have no clue as to how precious being alive and embodied can be.  I say this while being aware of the millions of people who, right now, are starving, or living in war zones.  My name is Eva and this is my first time writing for the Community.  I'm a little nervous so please just give me a chance here.

   I am a dead person.  I lived in Idaho and was butchered by my father in the 1940.  I was ten years old.  He cut me to pieces with a large knife.  I was terrified while it was happening but I was fortunate in that I died quickly.  This is hard for me to write.  He wanted to - this is really hard - he wanted to do things to me that no father should ever do to his daughter.  He wanted sex with me and I hit him with a hammer.  He knocked me out somehow and I woke up to him cutting me.  I didn't even know that I had died.   I was trying to get away from him and suddenly  I  did. But then I saw my body, or what was left of it.  I ran out of the house and straight into the arms of a very large and kind-looking woman.  Well, I thought it was a woman.  She was my guide and her name is Mulonin.  She got me away from there and I never went back.  I guess most people would call her an angel. 

   If I had been told that day I was going to die I would have been very scared.  Just like you.  There is no hell except for what you create for yourself.  If you are filled with guilt and fear, the afterlife is not going to be fun.  I was all torn up for many years by what had happened to me.  I thought somehow that it was my fault that my father did what he did to me.  Over the years Mulonin showed me that my father was a very sick and frightened person and that he did what he did because of that.  When I came here to Outlands, I met another girl my age, Connie, who had been killed by her father, and then I met our 'dark angel', Hurrain.  I don't know why they call him that, if you look at him he seems to be full of stars.  Then I met Irlene, who was killed when a guy on a motorcycle ran her down in 1970.  The four of us have been together ever since.  It was a long journey from then to now.  But I can tell you this.  What you are when you die is what you take with you and what you have when you get here.   And I can also tell you this.  Every person walks around having an inborn need to be forgiven.  I'm sorry if that sounds Christian.  I'm not a Christian.  But the need to be forgiven was around long before there was any religion.  See, we are all aware that we make mistakes, mess things up, hurt other people.  The lazy way is to do nothing about it.  When you do that you're saving up a lot of bad feelings.  Saying "I'm sorry" and doing something to make up for your mistakes is work.  But it's better than going around feeling you're damned or condemned.

   I should say something about "life over here."  Everyone needs time to adjust to the fact that everything that they knew is separated from them.  Irlene told me that after she was killed she went back to say goodbye to her mom and dad.  She's pretty sure her mother heard her.  This happens a lot, if you ever lost someone you really cared for, you proabaly had a similar visit.  It's real, and don't let anyone, not even yourself talk you out of that.  Once you're here you can do a lot of things.  Irlene went on a long trip with her guide.  Iehanne has been visiting people who know who she is for centuries.  On and on it goes.  You can come back, I mean, be born as a baby again.  I was afraid I would get similar parents, so I said no.  Sara and some of the other women here are succubi, which means they have sex with others.  I am not up for that and neither is Connie, and I guess that that is understandable.  I don't worry about it.  But I will say one thing.  I was very lucky to find the Outlands Community.  Until I met Connie and Hurrain I thought Mulonin had made a mistake, or played at dirty trick on me, bringing me here.  I thought that the incubi and succubi were just plain crazy.  I thought Roy was crazy for being with them.  But I see how the Divinity moves through them.  We all feel it.  Mulonin tells me to concentrate on now, this moment, and not to waste myself on the past because I can't change it.  As for the future, that is something that I can make, and I work at it rather than let it come to me.  For the first time ever I am a happy person.  Maybe you won't find the Outlands Community when you get here, but what you find is completely in your power.  It's up to you.  Just as is every moment that you have as a living, breathing flesh-and-blood person.  Only you can take that away.  I hope this helps.

   written by Eva Carr  

7. This is one more Internet cult!
   

   1.   We don't want your money, time, possessions.

   2.   If you don't believe what we say, fine.

   3.   We are reporting our experiences and opinions.

   4.   We offer ideas to consider.

   5.   We have little in the way of "set doctrine."

   6.   We believe in freedom - your freedom, our freedom, everyone.  Everywhere.

   7.   We do use words in special context, in ways either unfamiliar to their current common usage, or words that   we have invented.  Our meaning for the word delirium sometimes denotes an experiential place, for example.

   8.   We invite questions and will admit when we cannot answer them.

   9.   We do not pretend to have final answers on anything.  See #3.

   10. We do not any of us have a pathological need to be right.

   11. We threaten no-one in this life or the next for disagreeing with us or disregarding us.  See #2.

   12. We have no holy-book.

   13. We ask that you define the word "cult" for us and for yourself if you think that we are a cult.

   14. Our understanding of "cults" is that most hand over the secret teachings, mystical doctrines, inner wisdom in exchange for your time, money and possessions.  This reply is a restatement of #1.

   15. Unlike many "cults," the founders of this group are accessible by e-mail.  And will remain accessible.  Hell, you don't get this ease of contact with 90% of the things you buy / download / build on the Internet!

8. Why are you here? Why did you make this website?
   

   There are two primary reasons for our presence.

   The angelic steward of the Community asked us to get a computer in November 2004 and have a website up and running by the end of 2005.  I'm talking about Llam - if you need to know more about him, see the angels and devas page - and at first our channeler Roy kept saying how he had no money to get a computer.  Llam just smiled and told him to keep trying.  By March 2005 the usual channels had been exhausted - buying one on credit, looking in ads - and then this one fell into our hands.  In the last two hours of 2005 we established ourselves here at Mosaic Globe.

   Llam asked us to get online so that we might contact others like ourselves.  We have established contact with one other community, different but similar to ours, and a number of individuals who thought they were crazy or the only person who thought that way.

   written by Brynna

   I wish to add a comment here.  Although the internal workings of the Community have gotten extremely complex, and the admixture of beings from many dimensions or planes have cause interesting problems of communication, I am more than pleased with the work we have so far accomplished.  My awareness of other groups like our own is very strong indeed, and although certain members as well as myself are in contact with these groups and people in telepathic ways - what we have called "aetherspace" as opposed to "cyberspace," once I grasped the eminent practicality of the Internet I could think of no more up-to-date technological advance which would suit our designs.

   written by Llam, angelic steward

9. What do you think of Jesus? The Bible?
   

   The opinions here of Community members are very varied.  With a singular exception - Joan of Arc - most of us do not consider Jesus of Nazareth to be the Son of God, or the Savior.  And none of us consider the Bible, or any holy-book, to be authoritative.  A sampling of opinions:

   After 30 years of in-depth historical research, Jesus was either a revolutionary who had rabbinical leanings, or a rabbi who had revolutionary leanings.  Either way he got killed by the Romans - not the Jews.  What experiences his immediate disciples or followers had of him after his death resemble those that many people report after the death of a loved one, varying degrees of comforting presence, made by the departed for the benefit of the bereaved.  Nearly a century after Jesus' death the followrs of Saint Ignatius of Antioch reported that he (Ignatius) appeared to them in dreams after his martyrdom.  That such a document would be accepted by the Christian community at the time says that the experience itself was known and accepted.  In the last years of my work I did a lot of thinking about Robert Eisenmann's work about Jesus' brother Jude - Judas Thomas, or Judas Thomas Didymus - and feel he offered no solid proof of there being no Jesus at all.  What his work DID establish beyond doubt for me was that the Dead Sea Scroll sectarians, probably the Essenes, lived on as the first Christians, but called thmselves "Ebionim,"  "the poor."                                                                written by Roy

   As one of the people who was in the area at the time, I can tell you that Jesus of Nazareth was one of a number of religious  radicals who were called by their followers, "moshiach," "anointed one," an epithet signifying for the followers that the God of Israel had singled this individual out to do some great restorative work.  Few of these "anointed ones" were happy with the title foisted upon them because it usually brought the attention, the most unwelcome attention, of the Roman military authorites upon their person, which usually ended with crucifixion.  Coming as he did from Galilee, he was familiar with any number of adventurous ideas about the Israeli God, quite a number of which came from Syria.  There - Syria - Jewish splinter groups had been living in relative obscurity and anonymity for centuries, picking up ideas from a dozen different cultures:  the Persians, the Indians, the Greeks, the Arabs, the Egyptians, the Romans and babylonians to name but a few.  Syria was not the only place these litle groups existed, though; there were others in what is now Turkey and in Egypt and what is now Ethiopia.  These little bands suffered from a sort of theological inbreeding because of their isolation and their insularity.  You wonder where the modern day Mandaeans and Yezidis come from?  Why the Knights of Saint John Templar were so bizarre?  They all came - like Jesus of Nazareth - from this very special area.  Jesus' followers in my opinion had the will to preserve their traditions against all odds, but like any spiritual idea that keeps bringing in converts, it did the one thing fatal to its origins:  it evolved.   

   written by Michael Archontas 

   I, miserable sinner that I am, pronounce with the confidence given me by God our Father, and all the Saints in Glory, that Jesus was without doubt the savior of Man, that He took upon Himself the sins and sufferings of Man, fallen creatures that we all are, in needing the shriveness of our Heavenly Father.  Would you ask needless questions about what really happened, and what can we know of the historical truth?  Then, blind sinner, have you already missed the point, that all are in the misery of their misdeeds and walk about each day with the burden of their unforgiven acts, when forgiveness is but the one elixir need we as antidote to the poison and pain of our mere assuming our mantle fo the flesh.                                                  written by Iehanne d'Domremy d'Arc

   Where I was raised in Mobile the Preacher was always on us about how we needed to accept jesus as our personal Lord and Savior and scared us kids into it by his tellin stories about how lost people went to Hell and would be cast into a lake of fire for all eternity if they didn't ask Jesus ito their hearts.  Well my daddy put an end to all of that one night when he stood up in the middle of service and told the Preacher flat-out he was a liar and a hypocrite because he and the deacons was all drunks and adulterers and that he had proof, I mean my Daddy had proof.  That night after I didn't ever believe another word of it at all, and when I died I got proof-positive that it were all a bunch of nonsense.  I was gonna say somethin lots worse but in the interest ah decorum!

   written by Irlene Davis